Skip to main content

Reply to this post | Go Back
View Post [edit]

Poster: derf315 Date: Jan 3, 2011 8:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Watering the Garden

Just wanted to chime in here. I've been a long time lurker and few time poster but I'm active on other boards. I think sometimes the vibe here can be a little overwhelming for folks that don't take the band as seriously as some of the vets. That can be a little shortsighted.

Sure, some of the conversations can be a bit redundant but we must remember that there is a whole generation that did not get the chance to listen to, discuss, and see the band WE all love. These folks come here to find this great resource and perhaps hear these shows for the first time. It is our job as elders, so to speak, to hand our knowledge of these jems off to folks who have never experienced this. That is part of OUR History, OUR future, and OUR legacy.

I think sometimes we more experienced ones, tend to be a bit cynical and intimidating to those that have just jumped on the bus or who have just found this place. ( Believe me, if you have ever listened to Gans' show on Sirus you would be amazed how few know about this resource). Just thought that perhaps with the new year, we can help spread a little more knowledge and patience around the community. Cheers!

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 4, 2011 10:21am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

That's just what this place needs: another fucking, whiny pseudo-newbie post kicking off another round of angst-ridden navel-gazing.

:-)

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 4, 2011 10:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Angst-ridden navel gazing? You say that like it's a bad thing.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 4, 2011 10:44am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Well it all depends on what you find there.

I guess for Mando it would be naval gazing anyway.

re your inquiry of last year, I've been a little snowed under (literally and metaphorically) but I'm thinking Islay might be worth considering. I'll get back to you via other channels (which does not mean the back channel before you make with the smartass rejoinders...)

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: snori Date: Jan 4, 2011 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Hi Rob,

The white stuff was a bit tricky there for a while wasn't it.

Are you refering to Islay Mist ? I tried that while in Oban many years back, and thought the smoke flavouring so pleasant that I bought a bottle. Back home and after a couple of glasses (at different times)I had a complete turnaround and ended up giving it away to unsuspecting visitors.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 4, 2011 12:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Hi snori - no, I was referring to the various Islay distilleries - Ardbeg, Laphroaig, Bunnahabhain and so forth. I've never encountered Islay Mist to be honest.

The white stuff was fine so long as you weren't skidding into a ditch or falling unceremoniously on to your rear end. Best appreciated from a distance.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 4, 2011 6:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Since when did Lagavulin fall into the "and so forth" category?

I was back in Miami for my birthday and my friends there gave me a bottle of the aforementioned "and so forth" as a gift. Even my wife, who is not a scotch drinker said "well i don't really like the taste but it sure does warm you up on a chilly night."

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 5, 2011 8:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

I meant no disrespect to the mighty Lagavulin, I just thought it might be unnecessary to list all eight Islay malts. In fact, I left off two of my own favourites - Caol Ila and Bruichladdich. Glad to hear you and the wife have been enjoying a dram or two!

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 5, 2011 8:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Just having fun of course. I love most of the Islay malts that i have tried although the Laphroig is a bit too much peat and iodine for me. Well the 10 year old at least. I had the 15 year old once and I think I could acquire a taste for that.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 5, 2011 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Laphroig, I find, is one of those whiskies that's a pleasure in the evening but a killer in the morning. Congeners to spare and then some.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 4, 2011 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Preferably hundreds of miles away on the tele or in a photo.

Back in the day,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pFRhHBsnH0

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 4, 2011 7:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

While i don't really disagree with what you say as I for one lurked for 2 years before posting, I am a little put off that you decided to start your first thread by telling others how they should act around here. Why don't you come here and share some knowledge and lead by example instead of telling others what to do?

Despite being a little intimidated, i did start my first thread with a question about versions of a song. I found that many people here were more than happy to share their knowledge when asked politely to do so. That was 3.5 years ago and while many of the names have changed since then, i don't think the willingness of people here to lend a helping hand (unless its because someone can't figure out how to download soundboards) has changed at all.

btw if you still reading this, i am not really put off, but i do think if you are going to come here and challenge people you should become a more active participant. If you agree, then welcome aboard!!

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: ducats Date: Jan 4, 2011 6:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

we have a legacy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????

first one for me.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 4, 2011 9:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

i feel sorry for anyone that never got to see the real band with JERRY. I dont care what anyone says it was different live. That's also like saying you can fully hear the band without ever taking certain substances. Did you have to EVERY time no but if you NEVER heard them under the influence then you have never fully heard them. that's my opinion and no ones sob story is going to change that.

I come hear for camaraderie and to talk about my obsession because my wife can only handle so much and can't really offer anything back except patience or occasionally analyzing a song ( rather well often I might add )I generally don't write lenghty reviews and such just because it's too subjective to me. As for the knowledge factor - jesus I had read a shitload on the band and this was YEARS before Garcia died and all those biographies came out so I would think if you like the band enough to come to a forum about them you would know SOMETHING the basics at least. But I don't bash on newbies or anything just sayin

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 3, 2011 10:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

d, I am very interested in your observations. I have a few questions, but I don't want to get you in trouble either!
The 'overwhelming vibe' is ?
Too literal?
Too literate?
Too risky/scary?
Too much crankiness ?(it's definitely not less)
Too much accountability?
Too many unspoken rules?
I do not see much era bashing as I once did. But then the ones I have witnessed have been more a matter of arrogance of the latter day GD poster. 7/20/94 may be the best thing for you since sliced bread, but probably not me. If you can live with that, cool. However, it's crash n' burn if I have to love it too. I personally have linked to many '90's shows during my time here and never have gotten any negative responses. Many others have posted '90's shows without hassles. Maybe it's how and why you are bringing something to the forum?

What makes posting on IA intimidating?
Now I know I just asked you some straight up hard questions. If you are so kind to reply I will give back the same with any questions you may have. Your posting on several other sites and being familiar here, gives you a unique and valuable perspective. Please share because WT is right.
IA feels like it is changing. I miss some voices/conversations already . I could go for a WT, rob, dire, SDH 31 post tangent w/ ducats at the appropriate moments. If BD doesn't return soon with more bands and places he's been too, desperate action might be considered. I mean, how do we really now if Mando's 3rd moat is up? I could go on and on. Thanks, d

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: Pig Street ! Date: Jan 4, 2011 3:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

It is one of the strengths of this site, come and go as you please, been doing so for over 6years, if you like it, hang with, if not there is other forums if need be. I find myself returning to LMA to keep up with the scene I was exposed to while seeing the Grateful Dead 76'-94, kind of a lot scene to say, all sorts of personality's and such.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 3, 2011 9:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Hmmmm...I figured this was a call out to me in particular, bridge ref and all.

Is it just me, or in fact, has the board seemed to "shift" for newcomers/longtime lurkers (such as yourself)?

I have noted a distinct drop off in "regulars", perhaps just the Holidays and all, but it seems to be changing...

No biggie--nothing more than finally getting around to my retirement a la June or so past. Just like Brett, eh? Sitting on the sidelines, watching the game go down the tube...(football ref for you Rob).

JK--I think the Forum's fine, but the crowd is shifting, no doubt about it.

This post was modified by William Tell on 2011-01-04 05:41:51

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 4, 2011 6:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

I agree about the "crowd shift". Many new faces, many new opinions. Quite healthy if you ask me. And if we can just jettison some of the dead weight around here (and of course I'm not reffering to you, WT) the "garden" would be even healthier.

In all seriousness, based on the recent influx of new folks, I'm not so sure we need to alter our modus operandi.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 4, 2011 4:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Now SDH, why would you want to "jettison dead weight"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNvlLRRodYs

though the vocal interplay may not be the best, Mr. Garcia captures the essence of the guitar part nicely and creates a quite pleasurable listening experience

Photobucket

OK, the Blues Brothers works, but the link doesn't. I'm confused again.



This post was modified by user unknown on 2011-01-05 00:59:20

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jan 5, 2011 5:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWL4JH5OGB0&;feature=related

Nice video stuff to go with a live audio.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: vapors Date: Jan 4, 2011 5:52pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

There are different needs and approaches in posting here.
If you are no more than a reader, aka lurker, you must take what you get.

Some come to laugh their post away
Some come because they have something to say

Sometime the posts might not be to our taste
But I tell you at present it’s very nice in this place.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jan 4, 2011 9:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Thanks for the thoughtful comments, Fred.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: user unknown Date: Jan 4, 2011 9:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

While your original comments could easily be thought provoking, they could just as easily be construed as a derogatory commentary on the present state of the LMA GD Forum.

Watering the garden? Or, just stirring the pot?

While my line of questioning my not be as multifaceted as that of others; a simple, but truthful answer could be quite insightful.

"Some come to laugh their past away
Some come to make it just one more day
Whichever way your pleasure tends
if you plant ice you're gonna harvest wind.

If you get confused just listen to the music play."

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1991-09-10.fob.brennecke-young.GEMS.96422.flac16

(10:19 FT w/Bruce & Branford...does it get any better?)

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 4, 2011 9:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Upon further review, methinks your instincts are right , B.
Haven't we seen this pattern before? Same old song and dance?

'If you plant ice you're gonna harvest wind.' Indeed.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: derf315 Date: Jan 4, 2011 5:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Well I could fire off a retort and site specific examples but I really don't want to start a battle or any arguing. It was an observation. I find it hysterical that I can somehow be " in trouble " for something that I posted here. ( I mean, I have seen more racial hatred posted on this board than anywhere else I visit) That was not my intent. I was not trying to stir the pot or rag on this place. I was feeling good last night and felt like writing what I did.

The gist of what I was getting at is exemplified with this nugget. " another fucking, whiny pseudo-newbie post kicking off another round of angst-ridden navel-gazing".

Whatever. Peace to all.

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 5, 2011 8:29am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

Perhaps you'll oblige me by not taking everything I say entirely seriously. You'll notice I've already extended you the same courtesy.

;-)

Reply to this post
Reply [edit]

Poster: vapors Date: Jan 4, 2011 6:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Watering the Garden

You must have missed the smiley face at the bottom.